Throckmorton Blowfart Esquire IV, 33° An(archist) ([info]bitches_tyrone) wrote,
@ 2008-07-11 19:26:00
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"Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter." - George W. Bush

“President George Bush signed off with a defiant farewell over his refusal to accept global climate change targets at his last G8 summit. As he prepared to fly out from Japan, he told his fellow leaders: 'Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter.'"
From here, found via [info]so_very_doomed.

Is it so hard to see that this president does not give a shit about you and I or anybody we know, and never has? And yet he runs this country.
(Into the fucking ground.)
IF he cared about us, wouldn't he care about the land that sustains us? Bah, from what I know of most that read this, you already hate Bush, or,
"hope he falls into a toxic pit
and drowns in it
slowly"
onto another note.

I have absolutely no faith in any system that can get a fuck like that elected, and elected again, with next to no contestation. When it's that fuckwad or another who's "better than [him]" (this, for many, being the only reason they voted for such a chode monster), a douche and a turd, when there's voting fraud, hackable voting machines, restructuring of voter zones, ignoring votes of blacks, even denying some the ability to vote, on and on and on and on. And this is only voting. What about the bills that allow greater surveillance of us citizens, even the candidate claiming to be on the side of Change and citizen power is pro such a bill, the man from WI with a spine supports one who lets his rot.
Cousin J has this to say about Backbone Man: "yeah he is pretty stand up, Obama is the one who voted for it.
Feingold still believes that the democratic party is worth something, that is why he is lame" [emphasis added]

Let me correct one thing said above. I said I had "absolutely no faith", which is true in some sense (in the sense of lacking faith in anything I'd like to see being done politically, environmentally, economically, agriculturally, etc., for example). But in another sense it might be more true instead to say that I have faith that the system will work, but continue working for the most part just as it has in the past, and is doing so now, that it will exploit many, either directly or by ignoring their existence, faith that many people with power have gained such in games of concessions, games which involve trading integrity for influence, games that only The Rich and The Famous the wealthy can "buy in" on (with us playing [being played as] the poker chips), faith that, whether or not it was Mussolini who originally said "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power", that there is some truth to such. John Taylor Gatto has chronicled the dumbing down of Americans, and Freud's nephew, Edward Bernays, in his book Propaganda, said "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society." A father of public relations, not to mention influential in advertising. What do you mean our desires are manufactured?
I'm getting off topic here.

Shit like this is all the more reason why I most likely won't be voting in the coming election.
No, I'm not abstaining because of any desire to save my pure virgin cherry. It's been popped.
Some act as if voting will make all the difference in the world. I believe quite the opposite. That people, by believing that putting a check mark (or punching a chad, oof!) on a piece of paper makes a big difference, do not go far enough; many of said people hope to change the world for the better, and at the same time hate their neighbor just for voting for an opposing candidate. This is an act that says to me "I'm willing to give only enough of a say so somebody up there can A) change things, or B) keep things the same, but that's the only effort I'm willing [i.e. required] to put forth. Oh, and you're stupid and voting for the other party, morans." The kind of asshole that expects something from you but would never give one morning to volunteer for Meals on Wheels. It's like the priest that preaches community peace and love, then raises his nose to all those not of [H/h]is denomination. You say "vote for somebody in the system", and I say "I didn't even vote this system into place. Now where's the democracy in that?"

Voting will change some things, yes, but it is for the most part a hands off system, throw in some coins, push the button, sit back and watch, repeat every four years - a vestige of change for a highly-televisioned, pacified and mediated consumer culture, a culture that largely believes if it's not name brand or played on the radio or seen on MTV, that it's worth no consideration; how does somebody like this even consider a third party candidate (and no! I'm not saying this is where any salvation lies!)? Not only do I find most candidates illegitimate potential leaders (the same goes with almost anybody who has the desire to lead), but also the role of president, the government, along with any other body that claims to represent others but somehow always ends up making decisions against the interest of their constituents (all the while claiming a monopoly on legitimacy). Hell, representation I find illegitimate in most cases. Try to represent to me in prose the content of a poem. No thanks. And a politician is supposed to be capable of representing many living people, with their constantly changing minds and desires, who are quite more complex than a poem, which on the other hand has its words etched in stone (well, paper), to never change? I have yet to see a politician nuanced, delicate and fierce enough to do so legitimately.

Represent this to your representatives for me.



Voting: Because sometimes you're choosy when it comes to getting fucked by a fifty-some year old man you've never spoken to.

Me, I'd rather not ever get fucked by someone who doesn't want to hear my voice, ideas and opinions.



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[info]beatenmonkey
2008-07-12 12:08 am UTC (link)
Nice. It's great to finally hear someone who has the balls to say the truth about what will be happening regardless of who you are voting for in November(or not voting, and having to deal with the ridiculous consequences anyways). Thanks.

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[info]ankh_f_n_khonsu
2008-07-12 01:34 am UTC (link)
Unfortunately, trying to get other people to understand the futility in voting is often quite difficult...

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[info]bitches_tyrone
2008-07-12 02:03 am UTC (link)
while i don't necessarily agree that voting is futile, i do feel that voting is not enough, and never will nor can be. a minor distinction to some, but i'm sure you can get what i'm getting at.

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[info]ankh_f_n_khonsu
2008-07-12 02:08 am UTC (link)
A voting apparatus that lacks legitimacy is futile.

Did you catch that McKinney docu? "American Blackout"?

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[info]bitches_tyrone
2008-07-12 05:34 am UTC (link)
ah, sure sure sure.

I haven't seen that. Saw it up on Demonoid the other day (btw, you need an invite?), but lacked a number of gigs already for what was planned downloading, and figured it'd come across me again at some point. Perhaps now is that point.

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[info]ankh_f_n_khonsu
2008-07-12 06:07 am UTC (link)
Fuck Demonoid. I've got nothing left for them but scorn.

Meanwhile, here's a torrent from a public tracker just waiting for your attention. :P

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[info]beeblism
2008-07-12 02:44 am UTC (link)
sometimes i feel like every time i write something like this it actually gets converted to some kind of cosmic energy that miserable old white-dude shitbags like everyone in our government are actually NOURISHED on. they just LOVE reading this stuff. they've (that is, the US government and most of the people who actually like it) have adopted this sort of uber-bully mentality where they've just become completely immune to reason or kindness or anything approaching sanity -- but of course, this doesn't make them MONSTERS. oh no. they're just very secure in the superiority of their opinions, and just happen to be in a position of absolute power in which to mint these opinions as truth and law. and any sliver of outrage, protest, even disagreement, however slight, is met with the same merciless retribution. the US has become de facto totalitarian. the view from out here in canada has been... quite sobering. from this perspective i now realize that the social and political (not to mention economic) climate has reached a truly miserable state, which i'd been taking for granted as universal. and of course, this is just the beginning.

the good news is it seems as though bush has inspired the rest of the western world to devote itself to making sure that their own governments and cultures resemble the US as little as possible.

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[info]bitches_tyrone
2008-07-12 03:49 am UTC (link)
"the good news is it seems as though bush has inspired the rest of the western world to devote itself to making sure that their own governments and cultures resemble the US as little as possible."

well, that at least is good..
but it's also sad that this shit is what it takes.

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[info]ankh_f_n_khonsu
2008-07-12 06:27 am UTC (link)
the good news is it seems as though bush has inspired the rest of the western world to devote itself to making sure that their own governments and cultures resemble the US as little as possible.


In all politeness, I call bullshit on this.

Canada has taken a relentless slide towards totalitarianism, and the central government has taken an explicitly fascist stance towards labour since the 1950s. While US unions occasionally benefited from political manaeuvering, in Canada there has been no reciprocal improvement. Most major unions in Canada have been legally corporatized since the 50s.

Furthermore, looking to the UK, one sees an even steeper decline into fascism. Indeed, it seems almost irresponsible to not point to the UK - which graced the world by sanctioning monstrosities like 'fractional reserve banking' and usury. There's also a similar consolidation of media, marketing & advertising. Educational standards have declined and public 'happiness' has steadily plummeted.

The US isn't an exception. It's just the punching bag everyone loves to hate on. It's a lot easier to do that than face up to the foxes that roost within their own henhouses.

Also, if we wanted to point to consumerist trends, there are very few governments and cultures on the planet that are resisting the progressive onslaught of oligarchy. The rare exceptions - New Zealand, Iceland, Norway, Sweeden, etc - have clear-cut historic pretenses for these cultural nuances.

US-bashing in the context that you have used here is a Straw Man argument, and may be based on faulty assumptions, rhetoric or semantics.

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(Anonymous)
2008-07-12 06:40 am UTC (link)
whoa there mr. theorydude, take a valium. if i knew i was being graded on this maybe i would've spent more than 12 seconds writing it.

Canada has taken a relentless slide towards totalitarianism, and the central government has taken an explicitly fascist stance towards labour since the 1950s. While US unions occasionally benefited from political manaeuvering, in Canada there has been no reciprocal improvement. Most major unions in Canada have been legally corporatized since the 50s.

ah, whatever. if you think labor is any peachier in the US than canada i'll have to assume you haven't had a job around there lately.

"relentless slide towards totalitarianism" or not, i still don't feel like i'm 1 1/2 steps away from jail time every time i leave the fucking house. which i haven't felt in... years. what i said stands. enjoy your healthcare!

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[info]beeblism
2008-07-12 06:40 am UTC (link)
yyyyeap

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[info]ankh_f_n_khonsu
2008-07-12 07:00 am UTC (link)
if you think labor is any peachier in the US than canada i'll have to assume you haven't had a job around there lately.


I'm pretty sure that's a strong example of non sequitur.

How much of the history of the RCMP do you know? What was the RCMPs role in suppressing unions? Winnipeg 1919 ring any bells? What was the RCMPs role in suppressing political dissent? Or, for something a little more contemporary, what about the RCMPs philosophies on TASERs? What about the RCMPs frequently sordid complicity with dubious extradition cases? What about the boon in surveillance under the auspices of the Olympics? What about the relentless pandering to the national petrol economy? I'm pretty sure I could think up a few more questions, all to the point that Canada is, in all the ways that count, every bit as fascist and oligarchic as the US.

If you do not feel like you're close to jail where you live, I suggest it probably has more to do with your psychological state than the general socio-political climate.

As for Canada's healthcare system, I'd point out that there are significant provincial distinctions, and few Canadians have much positive to say about it. Of course, that's rather presumptuous because there are millions of Canadians, and I've only met a tiny fraction. Perhaps there are literally thousands of happy campers out there, utterly pleased with their coverage under Canadian health care providers. They sure have plenty of them on the TV, and the powers that be would certainly have us think they're in the majority...

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BLAH BLAH BLAH you're wasting your carpal tunnels
[info]beeblism
2008-07-12 06:13 pm UTC (link)
I'm pretty sure that's a strong example of non sequitur.

it's actually an excellent example of flippant i-absolutely-don't-care. and i would, i really would! however, all the time i wasted in [info]anarchists has forced me to put a moratorium on debate with any and all individuals sporting those goony transmetropolitan icons.

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Re: BLAH BLAH BLAH you're wasting your carpal tunnels
[info]ankh_f_n_khonsu
2008-07-12 07:13 pm UTC (link)
How unfortunately asinine.

If you post public content yet don't make an effort to make that content informed or justified, it seems to me that you'd be the one 'wasting your carpal tunnels'.

But, given your flippancy and apparent incapacity to string together cogent thoughts (let alone grammar or syntax), I'm perfectly fine with ending the 'conversation'. I've got better things to do than wasting my time with people who "absolutely-don't-care". :)

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HA HA HA internet pedantry = fashion don't
[info]beeblism
2008-07-12 07:15 pm UTC (link)
at least you changed the icon

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[info]partycrashing
2008-07-12 05:37 pm UTC (link)
agreed verbatim.

and fuck politics in general (i know this comment will receive retaliation), but i mean, i'm still proud to be an american.

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Just my two cents
[info]tupelo_lights
2008-07-12 05:54 pm UTC (link)
Anyone who tells you that your vote will effect some Boatload of Change is either lying to you or lying to themselves out of some combination of ignorance and misplaced idealism. However, anyone who tries to tell me that not voting is the principled way to stake their claim against the Yay Voting! folks is pretty far off the mark as well. Not voting isn't going to change anything, period. To quote a poet I know, the opposite of voting is slavery. And no, she doesn't mean that slavery was ended with a ballot, just that there's a reason people died to secure their right to that ballot and it's a good one. Now we have the vote, plus a lot more work to do, including the work of uncorrupting and making more valid the small work we're able to do with our votes. For one example, if you're really worried about a corrupt electorate system, well there's a lot of work that can be done on that issue and none of it involves throwing up your hands. It involves a lot of work and a little bit of voting and then a lot more work.

And let me just say, I don't really have a problem with people not voting or people voting enthusiastically as long as they're actually getting shit done. What I have a problem with is the sentiment above, which is that, for example, voting out difference between McCAin and Obama (and there is some difference there) will change some things but not enough to make it worth it. I have a problem with it because I believe it is an excuse not to do something, even if that something is very, very small. Really, who's going to get hurt if you care for five minutes about that little bit of change? ...and then on November 3rd, or even just later in the afternoon on the 2nd, you invest yourself back into the other little bit of change you can do that day?

As I said in an earlier post, I'm a radical voting for Obama because I think he's got a keen voice for talking to liberals, moderates and right-wing folks about justice and grassroots organizing. I don't expect him to solve health care or reproductive freedom or the war or any of our other problems. I expect him to use the national spotlight as a mouthpiece for working on people's hearts and minds so that it will be easier for hardworking, grassroots organizers to get a word in edgwise where people would otherwise shut the door in our face. Now that's real small change and it might not mean much and they might rig the election and McCain will take his place and that will also suck. But not voting for him won't mean a damn thing. So I'm gonna do this thing, and then go back to all the other shit I do.

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Re: Just my two cents
[info]bitches_tyrone
2008-07-12 10:59 pm UTC (link)
Ah, nobody's been telling me that voting will effect some "Boatload of Change", but people sometimes sure as hell act like it makes all the difference in the world. I do not think that there exist no differences between McCain and Obama, or that things will be the same no matter who takes office, though that may have been my sentiment to some degree at a point in the past, such is hardly the case now. I have yet to tell anybody to not vote, or that voting amounts to nothing, but rather expressed a feeling of voting not being as efficacious towards the degree of change desired, as people seem to act and give cred to it for. That voting is insufficient by itself as a means to an end. It appears to me as television programming, do I want to watch what's on Fox or CBS?
Hell, I haven't even said I'm not going to vote, as I very well may, perhaps for Obama, Gravel, or even Roxo the Rock and Roll Clown (and that's no joke).

"Not voting isn't going to change anything, period."
Ah, this is where I disagree, but that may be a matter of different scales of change we have in mind here.

I'm really not trying to hate on voting; if anything, I'm hating on the type of thinking that believes that voting by itself is enough, instead of one tool in a larger toolbox for change. That participation in voting, for many, provides the illusion of control, therefore breeding complacency, and also an endpoint to action. It feels like a big trap to me, "direct your attention over here," says the news and the advertisements and the newspapers and the television shows, often encouraging binary modes of thought (which party are you on the side of, which side of issues x y and z do you stand?). Perhaps this is all just so much lamentation and whining to everybody but me, sometimes, however, I enjoy thinking of change as possible outside the confines of political parties (not that I've provided any examples whatsoever).

A problem for me is I feel apathetic and jaded when it comes to this. Having participated in smaller protests with anti-war and animal rights groups in town, to traveling in a vehicle to DC for a September 24th protest a few weeks after Katrina, wherein a quarter million people showed, to find later that it received next to no news coverage, any difference any of these may have brought about I cannot claim awareness of (which is not to say they made none).

Gah, back to reading.

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[info]flower_on_fire
2008-07-12 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Ok.

What are you going to do about it?

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[info]bitches_tyrone
2008-07-12 09:44 pm UTC (link)
What suggestions might you have?
And, what do you know that others have done (and are doing) that's made worthwhile differences?

I remain ignorant of many methods of change and difference-making.
Just because I have a headache does not mean I know how to fix it.

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Re: Just my two cents
[info]bitches_tyrone
2008-07-12 09:53 pm UTC (link)
in other words, i'm open to suggestion(s)

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